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Dwarves…
They don’t apologize.
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Originally I had (in the script) the whole exchange between Nastajia and Bognok being all in the face.
Bognok had a “please forgive me” look on his face. Nastajia stared into his eyes…then understood.
He nods…then smiles. She nods…then turns and runs off.
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But I think that would have taken up about 2 pages of panels to get across. And I know how much you guys LOOOVE that…ha ha.
I literally just wrote that line from Bognok in the 3rd panel because Donna read the page (with only the dialog in the first and last panel) and thought it needed more as well.
I hope it works. It feels a bit rushed.
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And thank you guys also for the advice and feedback on page 748. I may go back and have some of those dwarves coming off the panel. Or I may try and light it a bit better. I’ll also move the “THOOM”.
Thank you all.
It works. Now to see how you put it together why Alex cannot use the sword now to finish Nick. I’m interested in seeing which way(s) you take it. ๐
Just wanted to say that I thought the comment, “Dwarves don’t apologize, Princess. We go to war!” was perfect. It just read so perfectly.
that third line is the best one!
feels natural and right.
Gotta love it… so hard hearted… with a soft, creamy center. ๐
This page is great the way it is. If they were having a 2 page conversation in the middle of this awesome battle it’d feel weird. It always seems silly when they do that on TV.
รขโฌลDwarves donรขโฌโขt apologize, Princess. We go to war!รขโฌย – what an absolutely fantastic line! I love it! ๐
I’m gonna agree with everybody else; this is perfect just as it is. The line in the third panel is definitely one of the best since this scene started, in my opinion.
I’m so stealing that line for the next time I play D&D!
Its combat… its suppose to feel rushed. ๐ And it would just seem wrong to have such a long moment of understanding while dwarfs are getting their butts kicked in the background the whole time.
I would never have guessed the third panel text was a last minute addition — it works very well. The pacing feels right. It’s always weird when people take a time out for a big emotional moment in the middle of a melee, and the dwarf king’s dialogue avoids that without denying the reader closure.
@kamatu: In case you may have forgotten, the underground fortress/temple is coming down around them, hence why they are running for their lives.
Alex obviously cares more about his friends than he does about finishing off Nic, which, I think, is a good thing. What good is it to depose a tyrant if the heroes die and can’t prevent a new tyrant from rising?
Dwarves, on the other hand, are too stubborn to verbally admit they were wrong, but will fight your enemies to show you they’re sorry.
RSS did a single post tonight, I think you fixed it….
I don’t often comment on comics but I have to tell you the third panel is probably my favorite line in a comic online or in print, in a really long time, and if it was a last minute addition it’s the best one. Huzzah!
The scene works for me! Doesn’t feel rushed at all.
Does anyone else imagine the dwarf king sounding like Gimley from LOTR?
Jacen: Hadn’t thought of Gimli, but yes, that’s about how he sounds to me.
On th contrary, but I think it sounds perfect! It fits with what we know of Bognok’s character, adds snarky wit to a dramatic situation, and moves the action along nicely. And honestly, I think Nastajia understands the rush, since she wouldn’t want her elven warriors fighting without her either.
I think this page actually works quite well ๐ It looked like the emphatic “dwarves don’t apologize!” was about as much of an apology as she could hope for, and it’s a bit comical ๐ Thanks for the update.
“Dwarves don’t apologise, Princess, we go to war!” Great line, and possibly one of the best ways to summarise the dwarf view of things I’ve read.
I’m gonna miss Bognok, he has been a real favourite with me and I’d love to see him again later.
“Jacen
October 14th, 2008 at 7:43 am
Does anyone else imagine the dwarf king sounding like Gimley from LOTR”
rofl.. yes! I immediately thought of LOTR
This was one of the best pages of this chapter – and since this is such an incredible chapter, that’s saying a lot!
While the dialogue was great, the facial expressions made it all come home for me.
Thank you Scott for a story which keeps me coming back page after page.
…..epic.
Let me throw in with the others. That line in the third panel is perfect. Seriously.
I think the quick exchange works quite well. I mean, a huge, angry dragon is fighting a dwarf army. Bognok doesn’t have time to have a conversation with the Princess. It’s well done the way it is.
It works, because they’re in the middle of a fight! I thought it was very well done…like Graceofbass said.
isoner hit the nail on the head… it supposed to be rushed. it works and it works well. the line is perfect!
This has got to be one of the best DC pages EVER.
Like everybody else already said… The dialogue fits the scene just nicely!
And the last three lines = perfect awesomeness!!!
i don’t think it’s rushed in a story sense at all. it’s fine. and yeah, in the middle of a fight, you don’t have time for the whole “wordless understanding” bit. ELF. GO. OMFG GIT. *goes back to fighting*. it’s very dwarvy as is X D. b^_^b.
Wonderful page, Scott! That line in the third panel is classic!
WHew!
Thank you guys so much.
I was so worried it didn’t work.
You guys are the best!
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I always tough long emotional lines during fight were not only corny and unrealistic but stupid as well. This one liner is just perfect, only a dwarf could make this one ๐
See, Bognok didn’t grovel, I told you he wouldn’t ๐
Nothing I can say about the scene that hasn’t already been said by at least twenty people.
What I don’t get is if dwarves live underground, don’t they have good nocturnal sight? Why don’t they turn off the lights once the group leaves and get Nik while he can’t see?
I’ve been rolling up a Dwarven Cleric for my D&D game, and I’m going to make “Dwarves donรขโฌโขt apologize, We go to war!” my battle cry.
Ever since Nicodemus showed up, I was thinking, “oh man, Bognok’s gonna die. That sucks.” Now I’m thinking, “oh man, all the dwarves are going to die. That sucks.” Maybe this story is kid-friendly enough that they won’t die. If it were a typical story line, they would all die or most of them would die. There would also be the possibility of prisoners.
@Lazerwulf, I think it was just that side chamber with the tablets that was crumbling. The main room seems to be just fine as far as I can tell.
Something interesting is that it seems the party has enough power to take out Nicodemus, if only they could get past the psychological fear of him. It’s not like they’re on a quest for some sword or something that will give them the power to take out Nicodemus. They already have the goods. The only thing keeping Nicodemus alive is the fact that Alex hasn’t developed enough courage to take him on yet.
For Pony!
maddness? THIS IS DREAMLAND
Been said many times above, but: Bognok’s line fits his style, the scene, and is eminently quotable. ๐
lol for dream land?. thats like wots its name off the lion the which and the wardrobe goin ‘for ponys!’ lol
Well, that is true, no ‘I’m sorry’ there, just picking up their axes and making the wrong right, that’s why I love them ^_^
FOR SEX, DRUGS, AND ROCK AND ROLL!!!
*CRY* i love this guy! dwarves rock!
mg ur right! crazy alex!
Heck yeah. I’d join them in a second!
No apologies, just grab your axe and fix the mistake.
Awww he’s gruff but lovable!
See, this?
This is why I only ever play dwarves in D&D.
Hy likez dis guy! Dwarves know how to Rock n’ Roll, Bay-BEE!
Very well done. This one page tells us everything we need to know about the dwarves in Dreamlands. Their mentality, determination, loyalty and dedication, and most importanly, their commitment to fighting Nicodemus.
The line ‘Dwarves don’t apologize, we go to war’ pretty much describes dwarves in general, actually. If there are any other tropers reading this, I think this line deserves to be mentioned on the Dreamland Chronicles reference on the page for dwarves.