I wouldn’t say that. I would feel the same if I felt my child was lieing. Its hard to belive a fantasy. As adults you tend to forget and think that there is a ‘reason’ for everything. Shes not a controlling bitch. Just worried that her baby was lieing, and that he was scared outta his wits!
Besides, this is another side to the belief question. Alex experiences Dreamland, but cannot really believe it. Daniel takes it on faith because Alex says so. Nicole cannot believe without scientific evidence. Now Mom believes they are lying, because Daniel is creative (but not Alex?)
Just because someone “doesn’t dream”, it doesn’t mean they aren’t having REM sleep. Memory retention is a big factor; it is entirely possible (and even quite frequent, especially for adults – possibly because of alarm clocks) to dream without remembering anything about it, or even that you’ve dreamt at all.
I would further propose the following hypothesis: in the context of this story, there are two different dream states – ordinary dreams, and visits to Dreamland. After all, it seems unlikely that every dreaming kid on the planet visits Dreamland every night; Dreamland would be overrun with human brats. By the same token, adults dream, but virtually never visit Dreamland. So with that hypothesis in mind, it is possible that Dan has been dreaming his entire life, but has never remembered his dreams and never visited Dreamland; and that Alex has been dreaming (without memory), but not Dreaming (visiting Dreamland) for the last 8 years.
(Note that I am certainly not the first to consider two different dream-states; I’m mostly drawing from my familiarity with Robert Jordan’s Tel’aran’rhiod concept. I’m reasonably certain that his work is probably rooted in some real-world mythology somewhere.)
So, the point of all that rambling: no seizures.
😉
Why does everyone keep thinking that Daniel is Nicodemus? Now, there was a manga series called (in English, had a much longer name in Japanese) Dream Saga where the main characters all went to a dream world where they were their ideal selves, and only the heroine was the same in both worlds. But this is not that story… in this one people who go to dream world always stay as themselves, they don’t change into fantasized dream versions, and the fantasy characters don’t randomly dissappear. (Plus Nicodemus is much older that Dan…)
When it’s something so minor that the only reason is “because I’m the parent”? No, you let it go or you’re a “controlling person”. If you thought it stolen, that’s a completely different issue and you would have never returned it.
People tried to tell me for years after I stopped dreaming that I just didn’t remember the dreams. That’s falsity when you don’t “remember” a dream for EIGHT YEARS, which is the time I did not have dreams as well.
What got me to start again, yet it’s only very rare that I do, was a Reincarnation dream I could feel, but not see. (nor smell etc just feel, emotional, physical, etc).
The last night I dreamt when I was little I was hooked up to one of those machines. That night I didn’t dream, and the doctor himself said I didn’t dream. So the whole “have dreams but don’t remember them” thing is not an absolute, by any means.
so we now know why he went missing for 8 years.
Because his mother was a controlling bitch?
I wouldn’t say that. I would feel the same if I felt my child was lieing. Its hard to belive a fantasy. As adults you tend to forget and think that there is a ‘reason’ for everything. Shes not a controlling bitch. Just worried that her baby was lieing, and that he was scared outta his wits!
Besides, this is another side to the belief question. Alex experiences Dreamland, but cannot really believe it. Daniel takes it on faith because Alex says so. Nicole cannot believe without scientific evidence. Now Mom believes they are lying, because Daniel is creative (but not Alex?)
Well if you faced off against Nick as a kid, you’d be crying too.
but he didn’t need the necklace before!
Now, I’d just lLOVE to see Alex cry… even though he has abs ;).
That would be funny.
“So I took away your necklace and that stopped your ability to have REM sleep. You were so cute when the siezures developed.”
Just because someone “doesn’t dream”, it doesn’t mean they aren’t having REM sleep. Memory retention is a big factor; it is entirely possible (and even quite frequent, especially for adults – possibly because of alarm clocks) to dream without remembering anything about it, or even that you’ve dreamt at all.
I would further propose the following hypothesis: in the context of this story, there are two different dream states – ordinary dreams, and visits to Dreamland. After all, it seems unlikely that every dreaming kid on the planet visits Dreamland every night; Dreamland would be overrun with human brats. By the same token, adults dream, but virtually never visit Dreamland. So with that hypothesis in mind, it is possible that Dan has been dreaming his entire life, but has never remembered his dreams and never visited Dreamland; and that Alex has been dreaming (without memory), but not Dreaming (visiting Dreamland) for the last 8 years.
(Note that I am certainly not the first to consider two different dream-states; I’m mostly drawing from my familiarity with Robert Jordan’s Tel’aran’rhiod concept. I’m reasonably certain that his work is probably rooted in some real-world mythology somewhere.)
So, the point of all that rambling: no seizures.
😉
Actually, I’m more of the opinion that Daniel dreams every night and goes to Dreamland, he just doesn’t remember it. (That’s cause he’s Nicodemus.)
Why does everyone keep thinking that Daniel is Nicodemus? Now, there was a manga series called (in English, had a much longer name in Japanese) Dream Saga where the main characters all went to a dream world where they were their ideal selves, and only the heroine was the same in both worlds. But this is not that story… in this one people who go to dream world always stay as themselves, they don’t change into fantasized dream versions, and the fantasy characters don’t randomly dissappear. (Plus Nicodemus is much older that Dan…)
Mother is going to be somewhat surprised if at any point it does get proven that Dreamland exists 😀
And as for the “someone outside the dreamworld might Nic” I agree with So-and-So
When it’s something so minor that the only reason is “because I’m the parent”? No, you let it go or you’re a “controlling person”. If you thought it stolen, that’s a completely different issue and you would have never returned it.
Jerk Mother!! Do you really think he’s lying? He’s in a state of shock give him some slack!
People tried to tell me for years after I stopped dreaming that I just didn’t remember the dreams. That’s falsity when you don’t “remember” a dream for EIGHT YEARS, which is the time I did not have dreams as well.
What got me to start again, yet it’s only very rare that I do, was a Reincarnation dream I could feel, but not see. (nor smell etc just feel, emotional, physical, etc).
The last night I dreamt when I was little I was hooked up to one of those machines. That night I didn’t dream, and the doctor himself said I didn’t dream. So the whole “have dreams but don’t remember them” thing is not an absolute, by any means.
The voyage to dreamland *stops* REM. Taking away the necklace may well have saved his life