Let’s see, in the Bible? Genesis 37 – 41: Joseph dreams and interprets dreams, and another Joseph does likewise in Matthew 1 – 2. Daniel 7 – 12 also has dreams. Ezekiel might (they are certainly wild enough to be dreams). Daniel 14 has the prophet Habakkuk taken to Babylon and back, but doesn’t say it’s a dream. Enough?
Other works might include C.S. Lewis’s Narnia Chronicles, or similar fiction.
Sure, why not? If Alex relayed not only the events, but the environment in which they occured, prehistory would be apparent to Dan. And the oldest written record with the easiest access is the Holy Bible. It bears a bit of investigation as any other source material.
*chuckles* You know, as a Christian myself, I have to admit that we have a lot of weird rituals. Try living in Japan and explaining Communion bread and wine to your friends, or the lighting of candles to represent the presence of the Holy Spirit, or praying for healing, or baptism in a dunking pool, or… Yes.
Gotta be fair here, though–the Bible is NOT the oldest reliable written record. It is, however, a fine guide to life, a traveler’s guide along a path to at least one valid view of God and the universe, an interesting chronicle, and excellent reading material. <3
(And I likewise could go with a cheeseburger, but banana bread and tea will have to do for now…)
Yeah, the Bible’s got a ton on dreams and visions, but it all seems to deal with our realm and the heavenlies not other Places. Although he might want to go read up on his Solomon and David facts. 😉 Wonder if Goliath had an alterego in the Nightmare Realm…
Right, Wicca’s practices are weird. ‘Cause pretending that bread and wine are someone’s body and blood doesn’t sound completely bizarre and canabalistic to an outsider. Trust me, from the outside, Christianity is just as weird as any other religion.
Actually, there’s currently been a lot more debate on whether biblical accounts really have much, if any, factual bearing, considering that many times the events were recorded several hundred, or thousand, years after the event. Unless, of course, everyone from Adam and Eve on down has had a way to keep a written record. More likely it was an oral tradition, much like the Druids, that was passed down through many generations before being committed to writing. Making it’s historical significance far less accurate than many followers believe.
Actually if you do a bit of research, there are more manuscripts from the Bible’s oldest transcriptions in existence than than for nearly any other ancient writing. Some of the oldest manuscripts, such as accounts of the later Davidic monarchy and also of the New Testament, are dated to have been written as early as within a hundred years of the events descriped. Some people make the argument that things get changed or edited over time, but the manuscripts do line up very precisely with each other, as was the duty of scribes to ensure their copies were as accurate as possible. I don’t know why the Bible is so often targeted as an unreliable source, probably because its a “religious” book, but its better documented than most works and there’s plenty of extra-Biblical sources from history that corroborate with the accounts in the Bible. I realize I’m replying to a comment made 2 years ago but hey, why not give my 2 cents.
Let’s see, in the Bible? Genesis 37 – 41: Joseph dreams and interprets dreams, and another Joseph does likewise in Matthew 1 – 2. Daniel 7 – 12 also has dreams. Ezekiel might (they are certainly wild enough to be dreams). Daniel 14 has the prophet Habakkuk taken to Babylon and back, but doesn’t say it’s a dream. Enough?
Other works might include C.S. Lewis’s Narnia Chronicles, or similar fiction.
bible or wicca. I don’t care I want that CHEESE BURGER!!!
Sure, why not? If Alex relayed not only the events, but the environment in which they occured, prehistory would be apparent to Dan. And the oldest written record with the easiest access is the Holy Bible. It bears a bit of investigation as any other source material.
Ooh I was right!
lol he discounts the bible but not the book on wicca… he IS the stupid one.
wicca is more accepting of the idea other worlds than christianity, so, there.
Yeah, but Wicca is also the one with the really weird rituals and practices.
So hungry for CHEEZEBURGER all of a sudden!
The cheeseburger seems to be magically floating just below his hands, and he seems worried about it. 😛
that cheezburger …*cry* ;_:…i wants it
and many of those rituals consist of a sort of lucid dream.
You know, the Bible is a valid source of reading material….
Depending on which translation you read 😉
*chuckles* You know, as a Christian myself, I have to admit that we have a lot of weird rituals. Try living in Japan and explaining Communion bread and wine to your friends, or the lighting of candles to represent the presence of the Holy Spirit, or praying for healing, or baptism in a dunking pool, or… Yes.
Gotta be fair here, though–the Bible is NOT the oldest reliable written record. It is, however, a fine guide to life, a traveler’s guide along a path to at least one valid view of God and the universe, an interesting chronicle, and excellent reading material. <3
(And I likewise could go with a cheeseburger, but banana bread and tea will have to do for now…)
I think I know what Freud would have to say on the subject of dreams about mermaids and fairies in bustiers.
wow. that burger is the size of his head, that’s impressive.
Yeah, the Bible’s got a ton on dreams and visions, but it all seems to deal with our realm and the heavenlies not other Places. Although he might want to go read up on his Solomon and David facts. 😉 Wonder if Goliath had an alterego in the Nightmare Realm…
I’m content enough with my hot dog lunch (that I’m eating at the computer where eating isn’t allowed on the computer I’m not allowed on either).
ok so in the bible heaven and hell are the only other dimensions, but still
Right, Wicca’s practices are weird. ‘Cause pretending that bread and wine are someone’s body and blood doesn’t sound completely bizarre and canabalistic to an outsider. Trust me, from the outside, Christianity is just as weird as any other religion.
Actually, there’s currently been a lot more debate on whether biblical accounts really have much, if any, factual bearing, considering that many times the events were recorded several hundred, or thousand, years after the event. Unless, of course, everyone from Adam and Eve on down has had a way to keep a written record. More likely it was an oral tradition, much like the Druids, that was passed down through many generations before being committed to writing. Making it’s historical significance far less accurate than many followers believe.
Well yeah, but that’s what Freud says about everything
We’re just all kinds of rebellious, aren’t we?
Actually if you do a bit of research, there are more manuscripts from the Bible’s oldest transcriptions in existence than than for nearly any other ancient writing. Some of the oldest manuscripts, such as accounts of the later Davidic monarchy and also of the New Testament, are dated to have been written as early as within a hundred years of the events descriped. Some people make the argument that things get changed or edited over time, but the manuscripts do line up very precisely with each other, as was the duty of scribes to ensure their copies were as accurate as possible. I don’t know why the Bible is so often targeted as an unreliable source, probably because its a “religious” book, but its better documented than most works and there’s plenty of extra-Biblical sources from history that corroborate with the accounts in the Bible. I realize I’m replying to a comment made 2 years ago but hey, why not give my 2 cents.
Nice job holding the air above that burger bro.